kzks: Posted 1/27/2023 08:26 (#10062732 - in reply to #10062317) . That well driller didnt believe in water dowsing originally but now calls me whenever someone wants him to drill a well.. It may sound like some rather hokey hocus-pocus, or something from, say, 500 years ago. More for local enjoyment. It works. Not worth the risk!. You can use just one rod, and it works just as well as if you use two. Yes, I can find underground wire, pipes by using a wire in each hand sticking out in front of me. Leave water/electricity off and nothing happens. To tie into a tile line we had put in 1970 I remembered close to where it was so I witched it and pointed out where it should be. Im about half of them the wire will start going down on them when they approach the vein. Although most would say that dowsing is nothing more than a myth, there are quite a few people today whobelieve in this practice. I wonder how in the world that works? Aerial photos often reveal linear features that might indicate the presence of fracture zones in the bedrock. First, Lynn locates water using welding rods to determine if there is any water in a certain area. The heavy end points toward the ground, held about a foot off the ground, and it starts bobbing up and down. The single end was sharpened to a point, exposing the wet, fresh willow wood. He says the cemetery located is located on private land near Seminary, Ms. at a place calledPeps Point that dates to the 1800s. "Dowsing," "water witching," "divining," and "doodlebugging" are all names for the practice of locating groundwater by walking the surface of a property while holding a forked stick, a pair of L-shaped rods, a pendulum, or another tool that responds when the person moves above a location that will yield an adequate flow of water to a drilled well (see Figure 1). This gives more chance to find adequate water, at two levels. "Dowsing," "water witching," "divining," and "doodlebugging" are all names for the practice of locating groundwater by walking the surface of a property while holding a forked stick, a pair of L-shaped rods, a pendulum, or another tool that responds when the person moves above a location that will yield an adequate flow of water to a drilled well (see Figure 1). ****. they will simply that there is no right nor wrong place, just drill anyplace and you either hit or miss. Better to pay a dowser so you at least haves reasonably decent place to try. He looked at me. Yes, I can witch water. When I was on the board of trustees for our local cemetery the subject of finding graves was brought up. Sometimes, the towns are really far away so you're out for eight hours and you make $200 . He would bend ends of the welding rods down at a 90 degree angle. We drove to my land that weekend and I set him on the same path I had taken, then stood back and watched. Call Number/Physical Location. A forked branch, or iron rod is a common tool that is used in water witching, also known as dowsing. "Divining" is referenced in the south, adding a magical aspect. I use a steel wire as my tool. I seem to be able to do it, ive always used copper wires because thats what i was told, most of the time they cross, cant hardly stop em, but sometimes they go apart the other way, anyone know what that could mean? I think it has to do with magnetics.when I worked in an IBM machine room I hacd to wear an antimagnetic watch to keep time. He found out wher they crossed each other then he put the ends in his one hand and held it over where he said they crossed, the end of the Y started bobbing up and down, each bob was a foot. I'm not sure about electrical but probably so. Farmer wipes the sweat off his head after removing a cowboy hat. The ends of the forked branch are held one in each hand, with your wrists and palms facing upward, and the stem of the Y pointing straight ahead and slightly upward.. They showed me how to do it with a willow branch when they were getting ready to drill a well. Cindy, just reading this looking for a witcher or dowser. Water Witching. I would appreciate that information. There are numerous verses in the Bible about asking the rod for answers. I was stunned by my first success when the stick pointed straight down and pulled my hand with it. Although Agricola used this illustration in his book and reported that the dowsing rod was being used to locate minerals, he rejected the practice and instead recommended trenching [5]. He found every water and sewer line. Being a plumber by trade and having a father that was also a plumber; I can tell you it's a crap shoot. However I will admit. The pull is very obvious. Some people use hazel wood, but it doesnt grow where we live. I used wire for finding the lost graves. Subsequently Ive located running water multiple times. Dowse a spot and hit the numbers we need. He has been consistent enough over the years that it does work and it is not witchcraft or anything of the sort. Water Witching, Magic Wands & Telekinesis. I can get you in touch with dowsers. My mom could do this..we called them water witches. If theres more water on down, it will start over and seek the next one. The studys findings showed that the dowsers predictions concerning depth and volume were accurate to within 10% to 20%. My mom uses a forked willow branch. It has the ability to flow laterally through these pore spaces and establish a "water table" that is generally horizontal or slightly sloping (see Figure 2). I located an underground river and I walked the direction it flowed. It was a strong well and He was only off by 5 feet.darndest thing I ever saw. When locating water sources for wells, he says hes been able to predict the depth about 95 percent of the time. The idea is that, as the diviner walks, the rod held in this position will suddenly jerk . I am a 4th Generation Water-witch. we told them where to drill ,they drill down so far and hit good water .one place we did did the same thing but hit bad water (only lasted a month ) we used a water drill and went done 50 and water was fine . The depth of impermeable rock units can sometimes be determined, and these can serve as a lower limit for drilling. A multi million dollar grant to research it. In PA Dutch country, you might hear it called "water smelling". This way you can hold tightly and feel the willow pull on your hands and wrists. During this studys 10-year research period, researchers paired up experienced geologists and dowsers, sending them to dry regions like Sri Lanka, Kenya, and Yemen. He carried a 1" pipe about 4-5' long. In 1970, we decided to put in a deeper well. Walking with the long ends pointed forward, when he came to a certain spot, the rods swung around and pointed back toward him. He cut a branch cut Y and when he found a stream we marked it. I think I can do this. Almanac Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. You need lots of experience to no how far below surface but simple training exercise makes believers out of doubters. Traditionally, the most common dowsing rod is a forked (Y-shaped) branch from a tree or bush. My dad could find an underground stream with a willow switch, same with my uncle. that was 30 years ago and still pumping good water . If vein is 10 steps wide about 30 feet then there is usually 20-25 gallon well in our area. Rods will turn in their hands. Data from controlled studies is proof this is nothing more than stuff and nonsense. A new branch of government to regulate it and then a $1500 license to do it. So he recommended they call me, Lynn says. Hes into genealogy. Water witching for graves. Spot they turned. When the driller gets down to the first layer, the amount of water may be adequate and they dont need to drill any deeper. If my brother touches metal it will corrode quickly. and the people came in with a drill and drilled another place with no luck . I find underground water veins. If it pulls hard, you know theres a lot of water. Also known as divining, water witching, doodlebugging, and other names, dowsing is an ancient practice whose origins are lost in long-forgotten history. There was a local man who used an old pair of slip joint pliers to find water. For the bobber stick (to determine depth of water), Lynn uses a dowsing willow about 3 feet long but small and light. Other words and phrases that refer to this process include: doodlebugging, divining and water witching, willow witching. We then dug it up to tie in a new cattle waterer, and it was dead on. As he approached the spot, he registered a look of total shock and surprise as the stick led his hand straight down. I live in Western N.C.Haywood Co. My address is Clyde, which is between Waynesville and Asheville . After he finished he had me try it. Its the disruption in the earth that does it. But, to each his own. But the tip of the stick bends first. I dont know how it works, but it appears to. Our new well supplied good water for our house (no more surface water that could be contaminated) and plenty of water for filling water troughs for our cattle. Sure enough when the well digger came to dig for the water he only went down 25 feet before he hit a artisian well with water 30 gallons per minute. Oh, and it also helps to know that traces of the waterline's route are still visible, especially if you connect the dots made by tile holes where the waterline cut them. They also provide information about the different types of rock units that exist in the area. The well water was so hard that most people had trouble with it especially with washing clothes. I was a strong farm boy, and I held that stick tight. I know a guy that has this one and has yet to try it out. Become an Online Member. He researched the area and it was a water source. MIKE JOHNSTON. Many dowsers prefer forked sticks made from willow, peach, or witch hazel wood. A dowser, or water witch, is a person perceived to have a skill for discovering underground water with the use of a divining rod, usually a small, forked limb cut from virtually any fruit-bearing tree or willow. Would be curious if life expectancy or health issues differ from those who can and can't. My email is djcwhite@comcast.net I would GREATLY appreciate any help in locating one around here. Our well depths in our area vary from 60 ft to 400 plus and can be from a gal/min to enough to run an irrigation well. I have used bent coat hangers to locate water and pipes underground. I had the opportunity to test them at our 40 acre farm when the pipe between the 2 ponds stopped flowing. My boss blindfolded a witcher, put him in a pickup and drove him around the city he correctly predicted every water pipe under the streets as they drove over them. It only work for me, this is the theory that I developed and have studied: 1) Water is a good conductor of electricity 2) The Clay in our Northern Pa. has almost equal amounts of + and charged Clay particles, this is why you can make a ball out of Clay. Some real estate agents in our valley ask him to check properties before offering them for sale, to make sure there is water. Define water witching. Publications. I was probably 5 when he witched it with a peach branch. He smokes a lot of dope, that maybe helps. I had coffee from the well my 100% Cherokee grandmother found in 1962. Yes, it does. AFC 1999/008: CRF-MH-A071. An old well striker gave me the cut coat hangers l shaped said walk around. Do you Rember how he did the depth. Water Science School HOME Groundwater topics . I know nothing but have always suspected it has something to do with an individual's electrical charge. Make a bend about 24.5 inches in, at about 90 degrees. My father in law, Lowell, was held in high esteem within our county as a master dowser. It will save a lot of backhoe time. Ive had the person Ive witched for try it. I am the only one of six kids that can do it too. My neighbor can, good at it. Why does the weeping willow root system expand so widely? I use a wire bent at a 90 degree angle. Yes, but with certain caveats. When it comes to modern-day water witching, I suppose digital imaging and water sniffing drones will win . Two of us on the board could locate graves, the others could not. It baffles me as to how it works. Fill a jar half full with branches and pour boiling water over the branches to fill the jar. Many successful wells are drilled without the cost of a dowser or a hydrogeologist. In fact, when California was in the middle of their worst drought, they turned to local dowsers to uncover hidden sources of water. Usually look at blue prints to go onto the street and mark what is needed. They started digging 10' farther to make sure they would find it. Find "Y" shaped branch. I really wish I had a video camera rolling as he bragged on his ability to find waterlines, then proceeded to march off, setting blue flags, confident in his prowess. Water dowsing can be performed through a wide range of water dowsing equipment. flag 1 like . Its possible to find water sometimes at high elevations, while some attempts to drill wells near rivers have failed. The divining rod: A history of water witching, with a bibliography Water Supply Paper 416 (1917) People that have never seen it or watched closely think the dowser is turning the stick down intentionally. Serviced 4 inside taps, dishwasher and laundry as well as yard irrigation without ever running low. We contacted him and he came with a hanger wire and took about 20 minutes to locate the water source. You dont always know whats under the ground. Make Some Miso Noodle Soup With A Soft Egg! Or at least the volume and depth of a vein. He would open the pliers pointing them straight up and they would get pulled out of his hands over a good well spot. This will indicate the depth to the next vein of water if one exists. Some of the neighbors have been told that. On the spirtual side of this however Grandpa was descended from a Scotsman. This is the tricky part; many experienced dowsers say that as you zero in on the water source, the dowsing rod will bend towards the earth quite sharply, which means youll need to tighten your grasp on the rod so that you dont drop it. So they sat him in the back of a pickup truck, blind folded him, and slowly drove down the main street of a small town. That well was 50 gpm at 100 foot depth. Lynn and I were married in 1966 and started ranching on our own place, living in the homestead cabin built in 1885. I dont know why this is still discussed. Trees grow 3 to 4 feet per year to 50 or 60 feet, and have a spread as wide. Figure 3: A drawing from De Re Metallica, by Georgius Agricola, published in 1556. - Event: Tour of Dennis and Ruby Dickens' Farm. Find an under ground vein. It DOES work. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, however in quantum physics we DO know that what we can sense with our 5 basic senses, can only perceive about 5% of reality, while the 95% is super-natural or beyond the 5 senses. Reminds me of someone bending their finger. The more times it bobs up and down, the deeper the water.. It shows two workers using dowsing rods to locate subsurface ore minerals. But would take a beer sometime in the bar. It doesnt work on a tap. Then he had water. Two attempts to drill, both dry holes. If its a thick vein of water, the stick will swing side-to-side many times. Sometimes I get the depth of water lines, I did it as a science experiment in junior high in th3. It's yet another example of magical thinking. When he walks over a location that has the potential of yielding water, the dowsing rod will rotate in his hands and point toward the ground. I personally use a dowser to decide where to put plants. I specialise in water mostly , dowsing Fri maps, finding water . I too can find electrical and water lines. (6071F728-B8B7-4E6C-88F4-9389450F4030 (full).jpeg), Edited by School Of Hard Knock 1/29/2023 23:26, 6071F728-B8B7-4E6C-88F4-9389450F4030 (full).jpeg. Source Collection. Second well a mille away on a different piece of strata was less stron and pulled 30 gpm at 150 foot depth. August 10, 2022 by allaboutdowsing. I honestly didnt believe until that rod practically jumped out of my hand to point downward. My Father used to talk about doing it himself. Try it yourself ,grab couple pieces of thin wire or other metal, bend it to fit your hands at approximately 90 degrees and walk across your lawn ,find the water meter in the street and that runs in a straight line to your first hose bib. I would not drill a well without the advice of a witcher. Very profound for someone who is very skeptical. As years went by I found out to be more successful at it I needed to find a vein. There was no way to fake this experiment. He said, I have just as good a chance as they do. Defining Water Witching and Dowsing Rods. What Is Dowsing? They found an old hand dug tile. Trying to locate buried utilities under an overhead line doesn't work for me. If it stops going side-to-side and starts bobbing again, you can count the bobs to see how deep it is (when it stops, There are usually only two levels, because Ive located, where they cross. After they dug several dry holes. He does this every day he works and with 100% accuracy. My buddy spent money hiring them and even worse, he spent money drilling dry hole after dry hole that would hit the shale. Typically, the person that is dowsing holds sticks or rods and walks around a property in the hopes that the rods will dip, twitch, or cross . Instead, the water must move through very narrow fractures in the rock. Yes I do it a lot. I told him I didnt believe that a stick could find water, he said well come with me he cut a stick and showed me how to hold it and told me to hold tight and start walking , I really didnt know what to say when that stick turn in my hands and I was holding so tight the bark peeled of in my hands it went down then next step it came back up and it did that in the same place every time, So I believe he passed the ability to witch to me when he handed the stick to me that day. Other clerics continued to condemn the practice for the next century or so, but France saw fit to use dowsing to track down heretics in the 17th century. When I backed up, they crossed in reverse. My husband and I moved upstate n.y. 14 years ago. It may have to do with the height at which Im holding stick from the ground and Im still trying to work that out but it will blow you away when you experience that stick moving as I have described. It was life changing for me . Other historical images that appear to represent dowsing are found in the temples of Egyptian pharaohs and in ancient Chinese etchings. Not sure about the tree branch and wells, Ive never seen anybody do that. Kelly Rogers: I know in the past too they used willow rods, like willow sticks. I've also had success finding graves. So definately something to do with natural magnetic or other waves that rods are picking up. We can determine male or female, how deep the grave is and by determining the length of the grave figure if its a child or adult. Your dowsing rod should also be relatively flatno branches sticking out in odd directions. Repeat for the second rod, and you have yourself some homemade copper dowsing rods! Told them no 100% guarantees. I have pretty good luck at it, Ive even used a pick axe with leather gloves if no wires or branches were handy Dennis. After locating the underground water with a forked willow, he figured out how deep it was by using a willow stick about 3 feet long. Dowsing tools include a variety of things, such as pendulums, car keys, wire rods, coat hangers and pliers. She showed me how at an early age. Had a well driller challenge me, we both located the same places. Might be something to that theory. Sure enough, the second stream really has good flow. What do you charge to come find a spot to drill a well? Have never tried it much more than a few times over a known water line where I live. Long story short Dad drilled a bunch of test holes anyway that turned up little to nothing at best. Just amazing to this this in action. Could find water. 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